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Autopilot + COM freq. over BT to RS232


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Tim Dawson
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Petertel and Ben, SkyDemon is sending full sentences but clearly they are being truncated somewhere. Are you on Android or iOS?

Petertel I look forward to hearing the results of your test. It's possible there is a MTU related problem where everything we send after the first X characters is simply being discarded.

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Petertel - 2/20/2025 1:39:06 PM
Hello, first I introduce myself since it is my first intervention in this forum. My name is Pedro, I am from Spain, I have an ultralight plane and I like to fly and program my own instruments for my plane.

I am building the Bluetooth adapter to be able to send the autopilot information from Skydemon to an old TRUTRAK DIGIFLIGHT II autopilot but it is not capable of recognizing the NMEA sentences that the Skydemon sends it.

I have been analyzing the NMEA sentences that the Garmin GPSMAP 296 GPS sends and they are like this:

$GPRMC,111231,A,4041.3941,N,00036.84755,W,0.0,227.3,190225,0.8,W,D*11
$GPRMB,A,0.00,R,,EDNT,4859.7560,N,01053.0926,E,656.923,44.7,,V,D*41
$GPRMC,111232,A,4041.3941,N,00036.84755,W,0.0,227.3,190225,0.8,W,D*12
$GPRMB,A,0.00,R,,EDNT,4859.7560,N,01053.0926,E,656.923,44.7,,V,D*41
$GPRMC,111233,A,4041.3941,N,00036.84755,W,0.0,227.3,190225,0.8,W,D*13
$GPRMB,A,0.00,R,,EDNT,4859.7560,N,01053.0926,E,656.923,44.7,,V,D*41

However, the NMEA sentences that Skydemon currently throws are like this:

$GPRMC,111343,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111344,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111345,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111346,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R

That is, the NMEA frames of the Skydemon are missing all the information fields and also do not end with CR+LF (0x0D + 0x0A) so the TRUTRAK autopilot is not able to interpret the NMEA sentences correctly.

Could you please check and correct it.

PD.-
Thank you very much Tim for having implemented the new Bluetooth functions, it is something that has been needed for a long time to be able to use Skydemon as the main route planning source.

  Hello, in my previous post I forgot to say that the tests were done with an HM-10 bluetooth module, just in case it was the problem with the module, I just bought the following adapter on Amazon: DSD TECH HM-18, since I have seen that there are colleagues who have bought it and it is working well.
As soon as it arrives and I do the tests, I will inform you of the results.

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Well, I installed the beautiful SDLink on to the back of my KRT2 and it left me with an instant grin as a tap on SD resulted in a frequency and station name appearing on the radio display before I'd even taken my finger off the screen!!!
Very happy.  A lovely time, space, and wire-saving product.

Next step was to take a feed from the existing RS232 line out of the back of the original connector, and hook it up to my autopilot, a TruTrak Digiflight II.  This was not so easy!  Wires to be cut, spliced etc, all behind a panel.

And it doesn't want to play.  The AP keeps reporting "NO GPS".  The baud rate is 9600 (fixed by the KRT2 spec).  Also tried 4800 too, still doesn't like it.  So I delved deeper and  pluged in a serial port adapter in to my laptop, hit up terminal, and attempted to capture the output to see what was being sent through.  To run this test, I set SD to only send autopilot messages, just in case the A/P was throwing out the radio frequency messages.

All I get is:

$GPGLL,5230.8752,N
$GPBOD,94.6,T,94.5
$GPBWC,151315,5240
$GPVTG,243.9,T,243
$GPXTE,A,A,9.99,L,
$GPAPB,A,A,9.99,L,
$GPRMB,A,9.99,L,EG
$GPGGA,151325,5230
$GPGSA,A,3,,,,,,,,

The first sentance is definately not to spec.  Should start with the date, let alone be missing everything after the latitute!
Can anyone shed any light on this?

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john123 - 2/23/2025 10:19:04 PM
Hi Sean I would be interested in your spare BT758


Hi John,
Still have it - ping me a message on here and we can sort?


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Hi Sean I would be interested in your spare BT758
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Just another thought for radio frequencies via bluetooth. Could we have 121.500 always listed and colour coded in the available frequencies list when flying? Most modern handhelds have a dedicated 121.5 button and if Skydemon
could list it too it may be useful for someone?


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Hi Sean I would be interested in your spare BT758 not sure how to contact you privately with address details and get info to pay you
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If anyone is still tinkering I have an unused Irxon BT758 Bluetooth Module with mini gender changer available £7 to include UK postage. Have bought a ready made solution  https://prodimex.co.uk/products/simpleble-for-trig-ty91-and-ty92-radios


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A case of very small writing and parallax error was the problem with my hangar mates connection.
D connectors are truly the devils work….
Now fixed and all working fine with the Funke.
We were discussing how we still won’t have the solution to a load of twiddling when cross country in France tho.

I was particularly interested in Pedro’s comments and discussion as I’ve just submitted my paperwork for my Trutrak A/P.
So I’ll watch with interest the resolution. Currently I have an old G195 which happily drives my Trutrak but the SkyD version was my Hope!
I’ll buy the beers Pedro when you get it working if I can blag the resolution of you, and Tim.
Hope to be in Spain in the summer touring about.
Thanks everyone, regards Clive
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Hello Tim, the transmission is at 9600, and analyzing the radio channel change frames, they do come out with CR+LF as you can see in the image. The only ones that do not come out with CR+LF are the NMEA ones.
The first image is with radio only output, and the second is with radio and autopilot. The third image is a capture of hex data in which it can be seen that the GPS frames do not add CR+LF and the frames is not full data.






A baud rate error is not possible since then they would all be wrong.

I use an Android tablet.

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